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1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip

2.  Entry Level Skills Tip  

3.  Robs Corner

4.  Promotional Level Skills Tip
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5.  New Badges

6.  Humor

7.  Resource Websites for Candidates

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1.      Quick Presentation Skills Tip
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Hiring lists

Would it be all right to mention that I have been testing at a lot of different fire departments and will continue until I fulfill my dream? Or should I not mention anything about other fire departments in an interview?  Scott

Reply: Convince me why you would bring this up? You’re not in charge of the interview.  Leave it out.

Captain Bob,

I am working on my script for the 30 sample oral board questions http://www.eatstress.com/thirty22.htm you have listed in Becoming A Firefighter - The Complete Guide To Your Badge.  I have listened to all the CDs that came with the gold package and watched the DVD as well and I have a question regarding the following question:

22.  Are you on any other hiring lists?  What would you do if another city called you?

I have my first oral board with Tempe Fire Department in Arizona on May 12.  I have followed your advice and have put in applications all over the place (Phoenix, Atlanta, Raleigh, NC, Wilmington, NC and a few others).  Do you recommend telling them about all of these other applications?  So far I have only tested for Tempe and Phoenix, none of the others have scheduled any tests as of yet.  My plan is basically to move anywhere I get hired.  That's what I did when I became a police officer thirteen years ago, I tested all over the country and wound up moving to Milwaukee, because they hired me first.  It doesn't strike me as a very good strategy to be brutally honest and tell Tempe that I will take the job if they hire me first, but that if another city offers me a job, I would take it.  At the same time if this question comes up I don't want to lie and tell them I won't take another job if it's offered to me.  That would be a lie and a pretty transparent one at that.  Why would I apply to these places and then not take the job if they offered it to me?

Do you have any insight as to how most fire departments would want this question answered?

I spoke with a Battalion Chief here in Florida who sits on their oral boards and he told me I need to convince them that Tempe is my top choice.  He suggested playing up any connection I have to the area, such as family in the area, etc. but the only problem is that I have no connection there other than they are a fire department that is hiring.  That's it.  I'd appreciate any advice you might be able to give me.

Reply:  Any agency has to know candidates are testing anywhere they can to gain their badge.  They want to know if you will stay if they invest all the time and money to get you through the academy and put you on the floor.  It could cost 50-75K depending on the department.

I really don’t hang much on the connection angle but it might work.

If they ask you if you’re on any list tell them the truth.  It can sometimes cause them to act faster if they really want you.

Would you stay if another department called you off their list?   The only correct answer is that you’re a loyal person.  If the department hired and trained you this is where you’re going to stay for your entire career.

PS  I don't know if you remember our phone conversation. I told you that I had made it all the way to the Chief's Oral for Madison Fire Department in Wisconsin, but that I had tanked the Chief's Interview and had blown my shot.  Well, after listening to your CDs, DVD and reading your book, I can tell you that I did so many things wrong in that interview it wasn't funny.  You said not to ask any questions at the end, I asked questions.  You said not to list weight loss as something you did to prepare for the job, I told them I had lost over 30 pounds preparing for the physical test and the fire academy.  I had to laugh out loud at some points as you basically laid out all my mistakes for me one after the other.  This time I intend to be prepared.  I'm working out my script, I will be working with a tape recorder and if my finances permit, I will try and set up a coaching session.

Reply:  This is way too funny Chris.

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2.      Entry Level Skills Tip 
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Subject: Hiring process question

Hi Captain Bob,

I am a frequent listener to your CD's and have taken your advice to heart.   I have run into kind of an unexpected situation with a fire department I tested with in Minnesota and I am hoping you can help me. 

I tested for this particular fire department in 2006.  I interviewed with them in mid 2007 (regretfully before I knew about your program) and their HR said that I was put on an eligibility list for the next two years from the date of the interview.  They were planning on starting a new list at the beginning of 2008 and they said that I would be merged into that new list if I wanted to or I had the option of reapplying and taking the written test over again.  I chose to keep with my old score.

I called the city's HR before the application period was up to make sure that I still could keep my old test score and be merged in.  Their HR told me there was nothing that I would need to do and that my name would automatically be merged over.  After the test was over and all my friends were getting their scores and their interview dates, I called HR, and they said that I needed to wait until the interviews were over toward the beginning of April, at which point they would contact me with my place in the list after my score had been merged in.

About a week ago, I still hadn't heard anything so I called their HR and left them a message saying that I was wondering what my place was on the list.  They never got back to me until yesterday when I received a letter stating that (according to their Civil Service Rules) since the test they used this time around was different than the test that I had taken initially, my score from that old test is void and that I will have to reapply and retest with them.  They are giving me the opportunity to reapply and retest. 

The problem is that the interviews are done.  They did them a few weeks ago.  This was a mistake made by the HR department of the city.  They had many chances to rectify the situation and inform me of the problem now seems like it is too late.  I don't feel that even if I do retest, that I will be given a fair shot at the positions since they have already interviewed.  Even if I did interview, I would be rated on the fact that I am the one (maybe there is one other person) that is holding up the process and I feel it would have negative connotations towards me.

What can I do to try to fix this?  Are they responsible to freeze the hiring process until I am able to test?  Do I have any rights in this situation… or am I pretty much screwed?  What do you think I should do? Greg

Reply:  This is not the first time I’ve heard this kind of story.

Greg: Are they responsible to freeze the hiring process until I am able to test? 

CB: You're kidding right?

Greg: Do I have any rights in this situation… or am I pretty much screwed? 

CB: Sorry.  You have no rights.

Greg: What do you think I should do?

CB: Take advantage of the opportunity, be gracious to retest and see what happens.  Although you can never know the outcome of retesting of risking merging your score onto a new list this is an example how things can go very wrong.


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 3.     Robs Corner 
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Psych Test Questions

I get calls quite often from people asking about the psychological testing given to prospective firefighters and police. While the police interview is much longer and more in-depth, they both have one thing in common. There is no standard question.

You can be asked in your interview anything and everything. There are no off-based questions, and they may even look for things to ask that you weren’t ready for. They may try to bait you, make you sad or angry.

But what they do have in common is they start with asking questions based on you personality profile. There are a few different tests out there; the most famous is the Myers-Briggs test. It separates people into four personality traits, and when combined the profile is used to ask you questions.

If it indicates you are shy, they may ask how you will handle large groups. If you seem to be portrayed as a hot head, they may ask you in-depth questions about anger, fights and handling you emotions.

So, while I can’t tell what questions you could be asked, you can figure some of them out for yourself. Take this sample test, and then it will tell you what strengths you have and what weaknesses. While the test they give in a hiring process has far more questions, and is far more in-depth, this is a sample. I took it with two of the people we hire recently and they said it was right on with the questions asked in their psych.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

I have no idea what other things this web site has, and don’t endorse them, it was just the best, simplest test I could find. Have fun and don’t take it too seriously.

Where ever you might be stuck in the hiring process from the written or video testing, physical agility CPAT, oral interview, psych interview, background, polygraph, or medical, you can find new powerful information on Captain Rob’s web site here:  www.myfireinterview.com

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 4.     Promotional Level Skills Tip
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Asking the Panel Questions?

Others have told candidates that you always have to ask a question, if you're given the opportunity at the end of an interview, or you will lose points. Not true in a fire oral! In a regular or corporate interview that might be true. But not here. You never, ever, ever, have a question. We don't expect you to have any questions. I had a guy one day ask, "Since I live so far away, can I start at second step pay to help pay for my gas?"

 

Here’s a prop idea.  Ahead of the interview take a 3X5 card and write down a few questions.  Then put this card in your shirt pocket before your interview.  If that question is asked (here's the "Nugget") you can pull out the 3X5 card, look at it, pause as if your gathering your thoughts and then say, "No, I think we covered everything."  You’ve just complimented the panel for covering everything you wanted to know.

 

A candidate was interviewing for a high position in a department.  As the interview was coming to and end he was asked if he had any question?  He asked as the fire chief do I have authority to talk to the elected member and other politicos about issues facing my department?  The City Manager who was sitting on the panel had a knee jerk reaction feeling like he was going over his head.  He immediately realized he had stepped in it big time.  In trying to recover he said I was just trying to find where the boundaries were for the job. Oh, yea, he found out.  Next time.  No questions.

Subject: Testing results

Captain Bob, I am writing you to let you know that after 6 years of testing for Captain and coming up just short, I decided to seek coaching with you. I am happy to announce that I got my results today, and I scored number one! I am scheduled to get promoted in July. Thanks for your help. Jim B. Spring Hill Fl.

Success story

Capt. Bob: Recently, our department gave promotionals for Batt. Chief, Captain, and Lieutenant.  I tested for the Captain's position and came out #1 on my first try.  I finished with a 96.25% on my oral board.  I used your Gold Package and, once again, your advice paid off.  I was badge #2396 in 2006 when I finished #1 on the Lieutenant's test when I first purchased your Gold Package.  I applied what you said and you've changed mine and my family's life forever.  I get sworn in Monday 4-21-08, and I start my new position on 4-22-08.  I can expect a raise of almost 20%, better holiday and vacation picks, and I'm 2nd-in-command of our shift of 25 and I've only been with my current department for 8 years!  Thank you so much for your wisdom and insight.  Please feel free to use this testimonial in any way that would help you.  Sincerely, Captain-to-be Will Anderson

Sir,  I wanted to thank you for your help with the recent promotion process that I went through.  Even though there were some parts of the assessment center that I had no idea about the interview tips and suggestions still landed me in the #2 spot with 4 badges up for grabs.  I get mine next month.  The program along with your help with my resume helped get me there.  We will be having another promotion exam in about two years for Captain and I believe that my next step will be your coaching program

Thank you, Daren Greening Lieutenant (to be) North Washington Fire Dept.

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Captain Bob, After a lengthy process of written test, physical agility tests, interviews, more interviews, I was finally called in for my conditional job offer with the fire chief and two assistant chiefs. I walked in very calm and confident but not over confident to were they could tell. I introduced myself to the chief and then the assistant chiefs. I had made it a chore to stop by the LR training academy on several occasions so that the training chief would remember me. He did and passed that on to the Fire Chief before I ever walked into the Fire Chiefs office. Needless to say, the interview was AWESOME. I was offered the job pending me passing my physical. Later that week, I passed the physical, got a final call from the OPS Chief with the final job offer and I start on the 14th of April. The Oral Board Entry Level CD/DVD Program that I purchased was worth more than what I paid for it. I can't believe how well I interviewed and it was all about the NUGGETS. Thanks Captain Bob.  Jason

 I am scheduled to receive my second fd badge here in a few weeks. Thanks for all the help. Karl

Subject: Testing results

Captain Bob, I am writing you to let you know that after 6 years of testing for Captain and coming up just short, I decided to seek coaching with you. I am happy to announce that I got my results today, and I scored number one! I am scheduled to get promoted in July. Thanks for your help. Jim B. Spring Hill Fl.

Success story

Capt. Bob: Recently, our department gave promotionals for Batt. Chief, Captain, and Lieutenant.  I tested for the Captain's position and came out #1 on my first try.  I finished with a 96.25% on my oral board.  I used your Gold Package and, once again, your advice paid off.  I was badge #2396 in 2006 when I finished #1 on the Lieutenant's test when I first purchased your Gold Package.  I applied what you said and you've changed mine and my family's life forever.  I get sworn in Monday 4-21-08, and I start my new position on 4-22-08.  I can expect a raise of almost 20%, better holiday and vacation picks, and I'm 2nd-in-command of our shift of 25 and I've only been with my current department for 8 years!  Thank you so much for your wisdom and insight.  Please feel free to use this testimonial in any way that would help you.  Sincerely, Captain-to-be Will Anderson

Sir,  I wanted to thank you for your help with the recent promotion process that I went through.  Even though there were some parts of the assessment center that I had no idea about the interview tips and suggestions still landed me in the #2 spot with 4 badges up for grabs.  I get mine next month.  The program along with your help with my resume helped get me there.  We will be having another promotion exam in about two years for Captain and I believe that my next step will be your coaching program

Thank you, Daren Greening Lieutenant (to be) North Washington Fire Dept.

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 6.     Humor

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 GEORGE CARLIN'S NEW RULES FOR 2008 
 
New Rule: No more gift registries. You know, it used to be just for weddings. Now it's for babies and new homes and graduations from rehab. Picking out the stuff you want and having other people buy it for you isn't gift giving, it's the white people version of looting. 
 
New Rule: Stop giving me that pop-up ad for classmates.com! There's a reason you don't talk to people for 25 years. Because you don't particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days --- mowing my lawn. 
 
New Rule: Don't eat anything that's served to you out a window unless you're a seagull. People are acting all shocked that a human finger was found in a bowl of Wendy's chili. Hey, it cost less than a dollar. What did you expect it to contain? Lobster? 
 
New Rule: Stop saying that teenage boys who have sex with their hot, blonde teachers are permanently damaged . I have a better description for these kids: 'Lucky.' 
 
New Rule: If you need to shave and you still collect baseball cards, you're a dope. If you're a kid, the cards are keep sakes of your idols. If you're a grown man, they're pictures of men. 
 
New Rule: Ladies, leave your eyebrows alone. Here's how much men care about your eyebrows: Do you have two of them? Good, we're done. 
 
New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket, water, but, without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink. You want flavored water? Pour some scotch over ice and let it melt. That's your flavored water. 
 
New Rule: Stop screwing with old people. Target is introducing a redesigned pill bottle that's square, with a bigger label. And the top is now the bottom. And by the time grandpa figures out how to open it, he will be in the morgue. Congratulations, Target, you just solved the Social Security crisis. 
 
New Rule: The more complicated the Starbucks order, the bigger the jerk. If you walk into a Starbucks and order a 'decaf grandee, half-soy, half-low fat, iced vanilla, double-shot, gingerbread cappuccino, extra dry, light ice, with one Sweet-n'-Low, and One NutraSweet,' ooooh, you're a huge jerk. 
 
New Rule: I'm not the cashier! By the time I look up from sliding my card, entering My PIN number, pressing 'Enter,' verifying the amount, deciding, no, I don't want Cash back, and pressing 'Enter' again, the kid who is supposed to be ringing me up is standing there eating my Almond Joy. 
 
New Rule: Just because your tattoo has Chinese characters in it doesn't make you spiritual. It's right above the crack of your butt. And it translates to 'beef with broccoli.' The last time you did anything spiritual, you were praying to God you weren't pregnant. You're not spiritual. You're just high. 
 
New Rule: Competitive eating isn't a sport. It's one of the seven deadly sins. ESPN Recently televised the U.S. Open of Competitive Eating, because watching those athletes at the poker table was just too damned exciting. What's next, competitive farting? Oh wait, they're already doing that. It's called 'The Howard Stern Show.' 
 
New Rule: I don't need a bigger mega M&Ms. If I'm extra hungry for M&Ms, I'll go nuts and eat two. 
 
New Rule: If you're going to insist on making movies based on crappy old television shows, then you have to give everyone in the Cineplex a remote so we can see what's playing on the other screens. Let's remember the reason something was a television show in the first place is that the idea wasn't good enough to be a movie. 
 
New Rule: And this one is long overdue: No more bathroom attendants. After I zip up, some guy is offering me a towel and a mint like I just had sex with George Michael. I can't even tell If he's supposed to be there, or just some freak with a fetish. I don't want to be on your webcam, Dude. I just want to wash my hands 
 
New Rule: When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months.' 'He's two' will do just fine. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place. 
 
New Rule: If you ever hope to be a credible adult and want a job that pays better than Minimum wage, then for God's sake don't pierce or tattoo every available piece of flesh. If so, then plan your future around saying, 'Do you want fries with that?'


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