Since 100% of your score in obtaining a firefighter badge is in the oral
board, what are you missing that's keeping you from gaining that badge?
June 1, 2009
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How much time and treasure have you invested to prepare and travel to take
firefighter tests? Could it be hundreds or thousands? Do you
want your oral board presentation to taste like
perfect and sweet to the panel members or sour?
From Captain Rob:
think being a person of faith helps tremendously in this job. In my experience
it helps people dig a little deeper when they need to. We see a lot of things
nobody wants to see. We go into very emotional, sad situations on calls on a
daily basis. My department has lost more on duty and recently retired people in
the last few years than a department five times our size should. But through it
all you need to find a way to deal with it and still be a good parent and
Also being of faith seems to give most people a moral compass, a code of honor
that keeps us out of trouble, and helps them in decision making. Firefighters
have the time, money, and ability to get into a lot of trouble. The girls all
know how hot we are.
But where it doesn’t help is in your interview. I have had a lot of people that
wanted to share their faith in their interviews. Make no mistake, it does not
belong there. I asked one guy tell me about himself. He started with, “Hi I’m
bill and the most important thing about me is my faith in Jesus Christ”. Now I
believed him, but it could doom an interview to present yourself like that. The
fact that he is a man of faith will help him in other parts of the
interview. Just about every person I have worked with that has a strong belief
system, comes with lots of volunteer work, a clean record, and a true wish to be
a good person.
I have had two guys tell me that they wanted to be firefighters because their
mom’s were nuns. They wanted to share how their mothers example had encouraged
them. Go figure that one out.
Last year I coached at least 15 people that were Mormon, most of them wanted to
talk at length about their bike riding mission trip when they turned 18. I told
them I didn’t think it was a good idea, but that the volunteer work they had
done would help a lot. One of them said that almost half of the department he
was testing for was LDS. My comment was that you may have a person on your
panel that has had a bad experience. If the LDS presence in the department is
that strong he may have a B/C, Captain, and firefighter that are Mormon and he
doesn’t want to hear from another one. It isn’t going to get you a job, not
even a point, and could cause you problems, so why bring it up?
I had another guy a few years ago that used his home phone as his main
number. The problem was that his father had a “Fire and Brimstone, you are all
sinners and going to hell if you don’t get on your knees right now” message on
the recorder that went for more than five minutes before you could leave a
message. Imagine if a background investigator, chief or the psychologist called
to set up a meeting and heard that, it could be a problem.
Please don’t get me wrong, I don’t want anyone to feel they have to hide their
faith, but it isn’t something we are looking to discuss in you interview; you
should have lots of other stuff to fill your interview with. Most departments
have a policy against discussing politics and religion in the fire stations, for
good reason. It would be the same as telling the panel if you were a Democrat
or Republican, it is something that is important to you, but should be kept to
yourself in your interview.
disagree. Be yourself, if your faith is who you are and what your about...touch
on it when asked tell us about yourself. You don't need to go into great detail
but if you want to mention it's importance to you- do it. Stay true to
First off I'm not a candidate. Secondly, certain department's are not for
everyone. I understand your comment about a panel member not "accepting" a
faith declaration, however holding back on who you are just to get the badge
isn't going to help you through probation now is it. If they like you, they
like you. The mere mention that faith is important to you is not going to bring
out the whistle bl*wers labeling the candidate as a religious freak who will
walk the station endlessly declaring the wrath of Hell on everyone -unless they
repent and turn from there wickedness! (The typical stereo type of someone of
faith)...ridiculous. Be yourself, isn't that what you teach? Not to be like
everyone else....a "Clone". On another note, those of you who have faith should
believe that if your meant for this career it will happen, in the right time,
with the right place- by God's doing. n't sacrifice who you are. Trust in God,
Captain Bob Reply:
You welcome to do anything you want.
If you’re a candidate you had better be praying because your competition is. I
would also suggest you not bring up religion as part of your answer because you
never know who is sitting on the panel and how they would receive, interpret and
accept this answer.
I've seen candidates bring up religion and it didn't have the desired affect
they were hoping for.
Because it could only take one panel member to give you a score that could keep
you out of the process. Some panel members could think they wouldn’t want to put
you in a station where you might drive everyone nuts talking about religion.
"Prayer is where burdens change shoulders"
Captain Rob’s response:
People have a lot of things they could say to “Stay true to themselves”. Some
identify themselves most with their religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity,
political affiliations; it seems one part of their life is more important to
them than it is to most people.
But, I would not bring up any of those things in my interview in describing
myself. To say, “I am a family man with two kids, volunteer with the school and
am active in my church”, would be one thing. But, to say the most important
thing about me you should know is………., could be a problem. If you were to say
the thing that describes you best is your passion for animal rights and how
happy you are that we got rid of our last president, you could be talking to
people that would have voted for President Bush again if they had the chance,
and are wearing fur underwear.
What you would have accomplished is to strongly identify yourself with something
that wasn’t asked about, and could be looked down on by the panel. You just
can’t know what is going on in their heads.
Is this interview a time for you to present yourself in a way they will like
best and offer you a job, or a chance for you to share everything about yourself
whether they like it or not?
Information on Captain
Rob’s web site here:
From Chief Tom Domingez:
If I applied to work at the United Nations and got an interview,it would be a
deal-breaker if I told them that I was a founding member of the John Birch
If I applied to be a cook at the local restaurant, it would not be a good idea
for me to tell them that I am a vegan.
If I were to get an interview with the city manager for a chiefy job, it would
be extremely ignorant of me to state that I believed with all my heart and soul
that the US tax code is illegal.
It doesn't matter how strongly I felt on all the above topics for the interview
is not the place to be making those types of statements even if that was who I
Do I want to make it known who I am in regards to my merit and suitability for
the job? You betcha! But If I want the job, I must work within the existing
Present yourself within the given format of the interview. Do NOT step into the
interview room and attempt to change the format. If you do not understand this
concept, you do not understand what the firefighter interview is about.
The interview is not the time to make statements about who you are or about you
being true to yourself. The interview is about demonstrating your merit for the
position through questions and answers. To work outside of this format is a
distraction. Distractions will lower your interview score. In that I have faith.
God presents me with direction and opportunities. It's up to me to see then. I
see most any firefighter candidate prep publication and "Gold Package" materials
as an opportunity. I also have faith in that too.
"I am active in my church," is a safe interview statement if and when you are
asked "Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Reply: So you get to decide how you want to approach
this topic in your interviews.
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4. Promotional Level Skills Tip
What to Wear?
Capt Bob, For our
upcoming oral interview we are instructed to wear our "Class A" uniform. I have
mine looking sharp (Clean ,pressed, starched, well fitting etc). I will have a
fresh haircut and spit shined shoes as well. I have read your info and there is
1 question still nagging me.
Is it expected/normal to
wear the cap? Our department uniform specs and general orders do not address
this. Military rules and the rules of polite society would dictate that the
hat should not be worn indoors.
Should it be worn or carried?
Reply: Good question. First check in with previous testers. If unsure, carry
the hat with you to the interview. If indeed the candidates are wearing their
hats put it on. Otherwise you could continue to carry it at your side or
discard it before you enter the room.
Once again your program has
come through! Two years ago I participated in my first Captain
promotional exam, however, I did not make it past the interview. This time was a
different story, I purchased your Promotional Program and
another tape recorder. I studied, practiced, drove my family NUTS ,
and practiced even more. I received my results yesterday and the letter
read, Your combined score places you number 1 on the eligible
list. I can not even describe how I am feeling!
would like to thank you for providing a program that truly works. I should have
listened to my wife two years ago and contacted you then. This time, I listened!
Captain Bob,I JUST GOT PROMOTED! Using the techniques in
your promotional and interview presentations just landed me my dream job. I can
proudly say I am a Captain now thanks to your advice. Thank you.
Matthew McCarthy, Captain,
Placer Hills Fire Protection District
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Ten years ago, I came across your program and decided
I would give it a try. I was working as a career firefighter in Washington and
wanted to come back to California. I purchased your entry level program and
a tape recorder. As a result of your program and many hours of
preparation, I was offered two entry level firefighter positions within a two
week period. The position I accepted is my dream job!
again your program has come through! Two years ago I participated
in my first Captain promotional exam, however, I did not make it past the
interview. This time was a different story, I purchased your Promotional
Program and another tape recorder. I studied, practiced, drove my
family NUTS , and practiced even more. I received my results
yesterday and the letter read, Your combined score places you number 1
on the eligible list. I can not even describe how I am feeling!
would like to thank you for providing a program that truly works. I should have
listened to my wife two years ago and contacted you then. This time, I listened!
Hello Capt Bob, I Cleared medical and psych , received
conditional job offer, and a letter stating everything was cleared and I would
be going further in the hiring process May 9 2009. The recruitment dept told me
that The next step would be an academy date. They said one should be in July.
Your Gold Package and Rob's
coaching were instrumental in helping me get a job in the fire service. Life is
good and my family is secure.
Captain Rob and Captain Bob,
I just wanted to let you know that I tested for the reserve position last
Saturday. I found out Tuesday afternoon that I was number one on the list to be
approved by the Montrose Fire Protection District board of directors. The Chief
called this morning and offered me the reserve FF/EMT position pending my
background test results. I accepted and am VERY excited about the opportunity.
I simply want to say thank you. Thank you for the program. Thank
you for the private coaching. While I came out of the interview somewhat dazed,
I certainly knew I had dropped the nuggets. Cheers fellas. It is very much
Capt. Bob, I want you to know
that the materials in the Gold Package were incredibly helpful to me. I spent
two weeks studying the materials, and when it came time to do my oral-board
interview, I aced it. This was only for a volunteer position with a
fire-protection district south of Denver, but this department loves to hire from
within. And apparently, I scored very, very high on my oral board, and now the
career personnel are looking to me to be a leader in the academy.
There were several questions the oral board asked that
seemed to come right out of the Gold Package -- one in particular being "You
have been dispatched to a large structure fire. An officer orders you to do
something that you feel is unsafe, or would put your life in danger. What do you
do?" Of course, I responded that as a fire fighter, I entrust the officers in
the department to make smart decisions, because they have more training and
experience than I, and thus, are qualified to make decisions such as this one."
I'll keep you apprised of my progress. My ultimate goal is
to get hired by this department. Thanks again, Capt.
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We had to have the garage door repaired. The
Sears repairman told us that one of our problems was that we did not
have a 'large' enough motor on the opener. I thought for a minute, and
said that we had the largest one Sears made at that time, a 1/2
horsepower. He shook his head and said, "Lady, you need a 1/4
horsepower." I responded that 1/2 was larger than 1/4. He said, "NO,
it's not.. Four is larger than two..."
We haven't used Sears repair since.
My daughter and I went through the McDonald's
take-out window and I gave the clerk a $5 bill. Our total was $4.25,
so I also handed her a quarter. She said, "You gave me too much money."
I said, "Yes I know, but this way you can just give me a dollar bill
back." She sighed and went to get the manager who asked me to repeat my
request. I did so, and he handed me back the quarter, and said "We're
sorry but we cannot do that kind of thing." The clerk then proceeded to
give me back $1 and 75 cents in change..
Do not confuse the clerks at McD's.
I live in a semi rural area. We recently had
a new neighbor call the local township administrative office to
request the removal of the DEER CROSSING sign
on our road. The reason: "Too many deer are being hit by cars out here!
I don't think this is a good place for them to be crossing anymore."
IDIOT SIGHTING IN FOOD SERVICE:
My daughter went to a local Taco Bell and
ordered a taco. She asked the person behind the counter for 'minimal
lettuce.' He said he was sorry, but they only had iceberg lettuce.
From Kansas City
I was at the airport, checking in at the gate
when an airport employee asked, "Has anyone put anything in
your baggage without your knowledge?" To
which I replied, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?" He
smiled knowingly and nodded, "That's why we ask."
Happened in Birmingham , Ala.
The stoplight on the corner buzzes when it's
safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually
challenged coworker of mine. She asked if I
knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals blind people
when the light is red. Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are
blind people doing driving?!"
She was a probation officer in Wichita , KS
We were having a good-bye luncheon for an old
and dear coworker, as she was leaving the company due to 'downsizing.'
Our manager commented cheerfully, "This is fun. We should do this more
often." Not another word was spoken. We all just looked at each other
with that deer-in-the-headlights stare.
This was a lunch at Texas Instruments.
I work with an individual who plugged her
power strip back into itself and for the sake of her life, couldn't
understand why her system would not turn on.
A deputy with the Dallas County Sheriff's office, no less.
When my husband and I arrived at an automobile
dealership to pick up our car, we were told the keys had been locked in
it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working
feverishly to unlock the driver side door. As I watched from the
passenger side, I instinctively tried the door handle and discovered
that it was unlocked. "Hey," I announced to the technician, "It's open!"
His reply, "I know. I already got that side.
This was at the Ford dealership in Canton , MS
When I left Hawaii and was transferred to
Florida , I still had the Hawaiian plates on my car, as my car was
shipped from Hawaii . I was parking somewhere (I can't remember) and a
guy asked me "Wow, you drove from Hawaii to here?" I looked at him and
quickly said "Yep. I took the Hawaii/San Francisco Bridge". He nodded
his head and said "Cool!"
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