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August 10, 2002.
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IN THIS
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1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip
2. Entry Level Skills Tip
3. Promotional Level Skills Tip
(Entry level should read this too)
4. Robs Corner
5. New Badges
6. Humor
7. Resource Websites for Candidates
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1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip
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Using Humor in an Interview
Don’t plan on laying something funny on the
panel during your oral. I’ve seen candidates that weren’t funny to begin with
try to include humor in a presentation. It bombed. How would you feel in that
situation if the room went dead silent and everyone just stared at you? What if
this humor was in your opening statement?
This happened to Ted. He said it threw off his
timing and confidence and he really never recovered. If something funny happens
naturally during your interview or presentation, that’s a gift. Don’t plan on it
happening.
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2. Entry
Level Skills Tip ===========================================
Captain Bob,
Thanks for creating a useful and informative sight. I
have been with a Department for a little
over a year and used your tips to get there. I do
however have a question. Recently, I applied for a
job with the another agency. I went through every stage
and passed everything. The last step was the
interview with the staff psychologist. I went in there
and things were going good until he asked me about
drug usage. He asked whether I had ever experimented
with drugs and I said no. But, then for some reason I
admitted that once I did try it but it was in the form
of a marijuana brownie and that I disclosed it to the
investigator and polygraph examiner. Obviously this
wasn't a problem because I got to the final stage.
After making this omission to the psychologist he
asked why I never put it on my initial personal
history statement. I told him the way it was worded I
never thought I had used drugs on my own free will. I
told him that I only new about it after I had consumed
the brownies.
The examiner starts to say to me that I
was a liar. He said that I lied on my application. I
said sir I think it was more of a misunderstanding.
I'm not used to being talked to like this and my
character questioned seeing as how I'm already a
in a position. So he continues with his interrogation
and I stick to my story about how all this was
disclosed and how I made a mistake and I thought it
was fixed. He abruptly ends the interview and says I
have heard all I need to. People asked me how it went
and why my interview was so short. I told them what
had happened and they said it didn't sound too good.
They all had longer interviews and were asked to
describe what they saw in pictures and what animal
they thought they were. He never asked me any of
that.
I'm asking for you honest opinion to this and what my
chances are of getting in. Will his decision make or
break my chances? You are the only one that I think
will have an answer.
Thanks and keep up the good work, Stan
Reply:
Stan:
I'm not sure of the motive used by the doctor. I'm a firm believer in not
creating trails where you do not have to. Why did you bring this up?
Who
else would have known?
Bob,
Thanks for the response. I'm befudled why I even
brought it up in the first place and regret having
done so. He tried to brand me as a liar and that I
was being dishonest but that couldn't be further from
the truth. I brought it up because I wanted to be
completely honest. When I responded to the online
personal history questionnaire I said no to the
question asking if I have ever experimented with
drugs. So when he asked me I said yes. That’s when the
whole thing started. I had already told the polygraph
examiner and my background investigator about this one
time event. I know it all relates back to honesty but
I was being honest. The doctor could have been
setting me up to see what I would say, whether I would
admit it or not to him.
I was just curious if the psychiatrist could sink my
chances after passing everything. My investigator
already said that he found no adverse information.
Thanks again for all the help.
Reply:
This is a perfect example how
you can fall into the trap of tossing something out that becomes a land mine.
Candidates want this job so bad, they will tell the psychologist anything
he wants to know. Once you start
volunteering information, being honest to a fault is where the wheels start
coming off your wagon. Think twice
before you answer a question.
Another recent candidate went
through a two-hour interview with a psychologist. That’s right TWO HOURS.
The doctor told him he was too perfect on the written and the interview.
She said, no one is this perfect.
He has been asked to come back and take the written again.
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3.
Promotional Level Skills Tip
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Part of getting a promotional
position is convincing the panel you can do the job before you get it.
That you have been there.
Done that. Got the ball cap,
T-shirt and played the game. I can’t tell you how many times I receive a resume for review
from a promotional candidate that does not include their acting time as an
officer. The most recent left off
six years acting time. Wouldn’t it
look better if your resume started off with:
Captain Sacramento Fire
(acting)
1997-2002
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4.
Robs Corner
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If you are going to spend all
the time and effort to get the most points you can from your oral presentation,
make sure you look for all of the easy ones. If you look at the job
announcement, there is an area for things that are required like: age 20, having
a drivers license, and a G.E.D. Then, there is a section for items that would be
nice to have, like f/f1, E.M.T., speak a second language, etc.
Make sure you look at the
requirements and mention them in your interview.
If it doesn’t come out of your mouth, you don’t get credit for it.
If it was important enough to put in the job announcement, there’s a good
chance it will be on the oral board’s rating sheet. On one test, San Jose fire
asked candidates type 25 words a minute. Only two people mentioned they could
type. It’s also a good idea to talk to the people who were last hired and see
what they thought was important, whatever they did was most likely the right
thing and what the board was looking for.
FIREFIGHTER ROB
NRTC@SONIC.NET
http://www.eatstress.com
Rob is Captain Bob's Son.
He works for Contra Costa fire department. He does all the entry level coaching
by phone nationwide. You can contact him direct with your questions or set up a
coaching appointment @ 707-869-1330. or e-mail me @
nrtc@sonic.net
You can read more of Rob’s
wisdom by clicking here:
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5.
New Badges
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Friends and Family,
I wanted you all to know that I finally received a formal job offer.
I would like to thank all of you who helped me achieve this goal during
the past five years. I would not have been able to do it without your
help, support and friendship.
I will be starting the fire academy August 30, 2002.
Once again, thank you very much!
Sincerely, Cliff
I saw the ad for a fire job in my local paper in Washington State.
I had no fire experience and classes at age 33. I found your web site on
the internet to help me prepare for a written test.
When I was notified that I had passed, I used your audio/video program to
get ready for my first ever oral board.
I was surprised to get a call to come to a chiefs interview.
As I was going around to a couple of stations to gather information, the
firefighters asked me how many tests I had taken.
When I told them this was my first one, they groaned they had tested 3,5
and 7 years to get a job.
When the dust settled after the chiefs interview, I received a call
offering me a job. They hired two.
I was #1. Thank you
for being there. Craig.
Rob-
My interview with a mid west Fire
Department went VERY VERY well, thanks for the coaching. It was a
preliminary interview so they only asked four questions. All of which I
had worked on extensively. I'm not concerned about moving on because I
think it was just an interview to eliminate the people without a chance.
Their process is slower than time,
hopefully they'll have another interview later this month.
The good news is, this morning I
got a call this morning for a fire
fighter job I interviewed for sometime last fall. The job is now pending
passing a physical and drug test, of course I took it. It is with
the same city Airport Fire Department. Not the most exciting job in the
world but I still get to go to work as a fire fighter and I still get paid.
I'm continuing in the process with the city fire department because the pay
starts about 6 thousand more. thanks for all your help.
Dave
ps, does this mean I get to count as
one of the badges for Capt. Bob????
Reply from Captain Bob:
Yes, of course, you
join the prestigious family of firefighters. We hereby bestow upon you
badge number 2,045 in our program. This position will give you some
experience to put on your resume.
Often, it’s easier to get a firefighter job if you already have one.
Keep us informed on your progress.
I'm a good test taker, very athletic, a people person, but
everyone has a
weakness. The oral board is what I needed help with in order to get hired. I
found your site and the top 30 questions that may be thrown at you in the
oral board. It was unbelievable when they threw question after question
almost verbatim from your list. It was like they went to your website to use
as a reference. I was completely prepared for all of them and I knew the job
was mine when I walked out. Thank you sir for giving me the competitive
edge I needed to secure a job in this extremely sought after profession.
Dave
Bravo on your badge! You
are badge number 2,044 in our program. What
department did you get on?
We are just starting the academy here in
Norfolk, Virginia. When completed, I will be an EMT-I/shock trauma Firefighter.
We split our 24 hour shift into12 hours in each capacity. There is no question
in my mind our class will get through it together. It was the boost you provided
to get in the door that I needed.
Thanks again
Captain Bob,
I spoke with you right around a year ago inquiring about your program.
After you asked me some questions, I did go ahead and buy the audio tapes.
I got hired with the city I was interviewing with at the time and am almost
done with my probationary year. Thanks for your help and sincerity.
Matt
Promotional:
Capt. Bob
Just wanted to update you on my promotional process.
The list came down two days ago, I am number 1!! The Chief should make his
appointment in a few weeks......I have done all I can do now its just wait and
see!
Thanks again Capt. Bob, I will keep you updated!
Jim , MA
Capt. Bob:
It's been a while since we talked. I sat at number two (and on needles and
pins) since mid May waiting for the official word. While on vacation, word
un-officially leaked out. Officially, I had my post promotion interview
with the chief and finally heard the C words. Congratulations Captain!
Effective August 1.
Thank you again, this probably would not have happened without your assistance
and know how! I recommend you to everyone who is a quality candidate and
who really want to be a firefighter!
I owe you a bottle of good cabernet sauvignon! Thanks Again Terry
Well Capt for a "6 year guy " was the intro to every question
asked I came out tied 6th on the list out of 88 candidates. My first
ever-formal interview. I beat out a lot of veterans and they don’t like that.
Our chief likes it to be 10yrs or more to get promoted. The list is out tonight
and I know im not gonna get picked on the first round so patience is my friend
right now.... so are tums!!
However being now 4th (4 out of 9 that made it to a
interview were 6 year guys we all came in together). funny how all of us
"young guys" toped the list. in retrospect our fire chief made lt at 4 yrs our
dep chief in 5 3 assitant shiefs made lt in betwewn 47 yrs so they cant go off
of time . A good subjuect for you to head on is younger guys making the grade
early in their career, shoot if I studied hard did good on the assessment and
survived the interview why cant other "go to" guys do it. I’m in a station with
5 companies largest sta in dept (14 engs 7 trks 2 hvy squads -I’m youngest on
one of them - 3 batts 10 rescues) about 500 strong. lot of admin and job
experince there 16 people in the house. well i look forward to your reply and
thank you.
Robert
Robert:
You got to love it! The
proof is in the list!
You are right. We are
having great success getting the younger guys in position the first time out.
Hey, if the old guys do not prepared and the young stallions are ready to go,
this is what happens.
Keep me informed.
Capt. Bob
I got the results of my assessment center yesterday. My
mark for the assessment portion was 84%. My overall mark is 82%.
I am waiting to see where I fall with my competition. There is only one
other guy in the running for a permanent and an acting position.
We both have been made Acting Captains and I start tomorrow.
Hopefully I will come out on top and get the first badge.
Thanks for your help, I will keep you updated!
Jim
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The Formula
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Here's what we know after 30-years of experience.
Candidates
who get our Audio/Video Entry Level or Promotional Program,
use the work booklet, practice with the all-important TAPE RECORDER, and come
back for a private coaching session, catapult themselves into the Olympic
camp. That's where you get a shot at that badge you have
been
looking for.
One on one coaching sessions
are where you get dialed into making your best presentation. It can make the
difference between being down on a list and being in the top 10 going for the
chief's oral. Candidates armed with this information are the one's who are
smoking past you in the oral, grab the badge and leave you as the bride's maid
again. We know because we get the calls when they get their badge! You can
contact my Son Rob direct to set up a coaching session @ 707-869-1330.
Robs e-mail is nrct@sonic.net
Click here to learn more
about private coaching
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You start by ordering our
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6.
Humor
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Job Application
This is an actual job
application that a 17 year old boy submitted to McDonald's in Florida... and
they hired him because he was so honest and funny!
NAME: Greg Bulmash.
SEX: Not yet. Still waiting
for the right person.
DESIRED POSITION: Company's
President or Vice President. But seriously, whatever's available. If I was in a
position to be picky, I wouldn't be applying here in the first place.
DESIRED SALARY: $185,000 a
year plus stock options and a Michael Ovitz style severance package. If that's
not possible, make an offer and we can haggle.
EDUCATION: Yes.
LAST POSITION HELD: Target for
middle management hostility.
SALARY: Less than I'm worth.
MOST NOTABLE ACHIEVEMENT: My
incredible collection of stolen pens and post-it notes.
REASON FOR LEAVING: It sucked.
HOURS AVAILABLE TO WORK: Any.
PREFERRED HOURS: 1:30-3:30
p.m., Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL
SKILLS?: Yes, but they're better suited to a more intimate environment.
MAY WE CONTACT YOUR CURRENT
EMPLOYER?: If I had one, would I be here?
DO YOU HAVE ANY PHYSICAL
CONDITIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM LIFTING UP TO 50 LBS?: Of what?
DO YOU HAVE A CAR?: I think
the more appropriate question here would be "Do you have a car that runs?"
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL
AWARDS OR RECOGNITION?: I may already be a winner of the Publishers Clearing
house Sweepstakes.
DO YOU SMOKE?: On the job no,
on my breaks yes.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE
DOING IN FIVE YEARS?: Living in the Bahamas with a fabulously wealthy dumb sexy
blonde super model who thinks I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Actually, I'd like to be doing that now.
DO YOU CERTIFY THAT THE ABOVE
IS TRUE AND COMPLETE TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE?: Yes. Absolutely.
SIGN HERE: Aries.
The job application joke above is © 1997 by Greg Bulmash. Enjoy more of his humor at Funny But Sick, browse his insult collection, or hunt for the best burger in America.
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7. Resource Websites for Candidates
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Perfect Firefighter
Candidate. Job listing and a
complete resource web site with a community bulletin board.
http://www.firecareers.com
Don McNea Fire School, Inc. is the #1 Firefighter
Preparatory Entrance School in the Country.
They have the inside information how to tackle those psychological and
personality questions on the written.
http://www.fireprep.com
Learn how entry level and promotional candidates are
improving their interview scores up to 15 points and nailing that badge!
http://www.eatstress.com/newpage2.htm
FREE 101 Inside Secrets How to Get a Badge!
http://www.eatstress.com/faq.htm
Check out the specials on
our products for entry level and promotional testing:
http://www.eatstress.com/newpage6.htm
Firenuggets.com "The
Internet magazine dedicated to keeping firefighters safe"
http://www.firenuggets.com
B-Pad Assessment Devices.
If you're an agency looking for a new dimension to evaluate candidates,
or a candidate wanting information on how you can orientate your skills for this
evaluation check out their web site:
http://www.bpad.com
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